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   (2012) 'Season of the Witch.'  

    December 24, 2012
    6:00 - 7:00pm EST  

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i think my mom for flying in today. thank you so much for everyone joining us today and we will see you outside. ..
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was a very tough irish catholic, italian catholic town from a very traditional in many ways in
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the first beta of hippies that came to the city really have the drawbridge pulled up on them. many of the kids can get treatment with a drug problems and other medical problems. they were given the cold shoulder by the city officials, the cops harassed them. so that was only the beginning of what became the very first culture were anything great here in san francisco. america's first culture where was the civil work in the disco is of between these new forces, social forces that began sweeping the city in the 1960s and 1970s with gays. one step work really took hold, and became quite bloody. i written about the so-called san francisco values weren't born with flowers in their hair. they were born howling.
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the book i should say does have a happy ending because the city ultimately trying triads. it resolves these differences after very brutal times and with the help of then mayor who is not terribly beloved in the city at first couldn't win the office because she was a little straightlaced received cisco, diane find time. but she was the kind of calm in hand and stable political figure the city needed after all the trauma went through the 1970s with johnstown, people of tempo, assassinations of berlusconi -- moscone and harvey milk most people don't think of sports fans have been a kind of mystical power. but i think the 40 niners is a team that mirrored san francisco itself, very poetic, bill bush, nine of a poet, really brought
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the city together with the first super bowl the true 1982. and finally, the way the city itself is very significant. here's a city that's gone through very time over gay rice, said three liberation and a lot of hate directed at someone on the street. they could've gone reeling backwards and gone into the abyss without point. people did not the epidemic. there is panic that began to rise in san francisco and throughout the country. people didn't know whether they could eat in restaurants where gays were working arcaro to clothing stores that were in the castro and once again though, the city came together and again because of diane feinstein readership in part, the daughter of the doctor who had a medical
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background herself, was married to a doctor. and the medical community and the city that based on her weekend.yours and nurses at the age toward, dr. paul wilbur dang and others. and they didn't know it at that point whether they were taking home the infection to the children's come in to their families, but they stood their ground and began to treat the sick and the ailing president he were our children, the brothers were part of san francisco family. and that msn is the san francisco values his solo. we take care of our own here. and the rest of the country was rejecting aids patients, dumping them in the city, putting them on airplanes to be flown to san francisco in their dying days, san francisco took been in and took care of them. so we take care of our own. that's the value here.
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one of the key people who get that going back to the 1960s and very glad he's here with us today, dr. david smith who is the brave, young or in the 1960s is set up to the medical establishment in this town when they were not treating the young who are on the streets, the runaways who are swarming into seem to cisco during the summer of love in 1967. st. mary's hospital nearby and would not treat young people who are having drug overdoses in emergency situations. but the haight-ashbury free clinic scrape together $500 to open a clinic in the first day were hundreds of young people lined up outside the clinic at the next day were even more. they were not out of madison medicine, bandages. it was like a war zone. they were treating people with problems more can your corrupt countries in a prosperous american city.
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but they stood their ground and not for toughness in san francisco, you know, people forget how tough a town assist. because of that toughness and resilience, we do have lasting institutions that become the embodiment of san francisco values in the haight-ashbury free clinic is high among them. we also have a wonderful rest didn't back in those days who lived across the street from the grateful dead, who i interview in the book until some wonderful stories. i hope she tells what it was like when the haight was like a small town, grateful dead, janis joplin around the neighborhood and jefferson airplane. so glad you're here as well. i want to end by reading a section from the book that i think also conveys the sense of toughness about the haight in particular. they told me about this group,
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the neighborhood activists, the hero of the haight. i was amazed. i never read about this group before. to commune called the good earth content. how many people have heard of the economy and? quite a few. that's great. it is news to me when i street interviews. several houses here. they were not the stereotype hippies. they were tough. you're a vietnam veteran. they had been on the streets for a long time. they're toughening at how to take care of themselves in this their ground. they moved into some of the abandoned houses in areas that fixed amount, close business, car mechanics business, painting business and they became a fixture in this community at a time when other distressed neighborhoods were being bulldozed by the redevelopment agencies in san francisco and
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that's the great tragedy of courses one striving black neighborhood in san francisco that was once called the harlem of the west, great music coming out to the neighborhood was leveled in the haight could've gone in that direction as well. as of late 60s, our troops are taking neighborhood and it's the good earth commune in part to stand their ground and help me not neighborhood. that's the part of the book i want to share with you right now and then were going to questions and i would love to have some back-and-forth with you all in here from dr. smith in maryland. so this is chapter 17 in my book, love's last stand. the haight was a war zone by the time robert parker at parker if he found his repair christmas eve 1969. he's seen worse. mccarthy served in vietnam is
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the gunner's mate on a patrol boat near cambodia. it is so apocalypse now experience he said many years later. i was terrified the whole time. mccarthy lost a number of mayfair and i killed a lot of people. i never said that till recently he said. when mccarthy returned to the united states commuter station on treasure island and the cisco bag. he tried faking mental illness to get a medical discharge, but it wasn't that far from the truth. one time while way too high on weight training us that he considers suicide. the reality was setting and ends up to do have a gun he recalled. the truly crazy was the treasure island with the guys who clutched pouches they made from the scrotums of dead vietnamese. the navy patched up their heads in action. the haight beckoned across the choppy cold waters of the bay. on christmas eve went strolling in the hippie haven he'd rented figures reform might magazine. he wasn't looking for sex, but
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for mystical camaraderie. it's a harder connection to find in the states. as he walked on haight streak of us have ratty looking speed freaks for fun of them, hustling anyone who went by. when a past, jitterbug scratch, trying to pull in peer she broke away, but the navy men's high-end lst fix them with a look at data backed up the woman. after vietnam mozilla became not sure to mccarthy was only enhanced by the acid. 20 yards past, mccarthy heard a loud scuffle from the sharp crack of a gunshot. as he spun around, the young man stumbled past shutting i got a shot me. the kid who ventured into the haight from a suburb to score drugs have been shot through the five p. it's not an interaction, durable for shoulder for his frantic girlfriend was reading it her father seabird. mccarthy's introduction to the
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haight started out as pure misery, but then he got lucky. he stumbled upon a star called the ever loving trading post, we some of young men and women were caught up in the chris is the biggest celebration, singing and dancing in reading each year. he began talking with them. they have long, flowing hair and all of them, then i'm in the lake looked beautiful even though he was trying to hide, they took one look and knew he was military. they received a marveling. they understood. they knew it is looking for. i was looking for a hat. mccarthy spent tonight and a dilapidated house in the haight. christmas morning woke up and went to the street soul-searching. he ran into steve keever, a young man he talked to the day before at the ever loving trading post. it is strong compact body with his long blond hair and beard looks like gore. i just wanted to touch that, not his hair. he had enormous open-heart.
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he has to sailors he found out whether he was looking for. he said no, so invited mccarthy for christmas dinner as communal house that evening. when he showed up in 1815 oak street, headquarters at the good earth commune instantly felt he was stepping into a stream of what the haight was supposed to be. you're in a three-story victorian is beautifully kept with shiny oiled wooden floors and heavy velvet curtains. a high ceiling dining room is dominated by huge table that looks like it was constructed with ray road ties and bolted together. a table was filled with platters of food, rose to a winter vegetables mashed potatoes and the room is filling up with people, men, women, babies of all races, white, black, brown, yellow, red. or if he stood quietly in the chaos and took it all in. he knew he'd come home. the good earth commune with
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essential part of the second wave of haight-ashbury settlement. the commune was founded in 1968 by keever and fellow ex-convict named cyril isaacs who we met in prison where keever served four and a half years. the idea cable he was on parole and working on the rapid transit title that was being constructed under the bay. he and his ex-con friends with both the resources and live communally in the haight. it was a small group of friends of the women who love them. but good earth rapidly grew until it was a sprawling network of more than a half-dozen houses and in this ever-changing changing membership is estimated to over 700 people. the batteries took up with the diggers have left off. in many ways they were tougher and more resilient. the core group within the commune were hardened young men and women, vietnam veteran, streetwise runaways who knew how
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to survive. they called themselves a church and claimed pot as their sacrament preach the piece above philosophy. they love their neighborhood, but it was turning into a jungle without predators and vicious cops around every corner. good earth made it known it was prepared to stand in the fight. at first the self-defense of funds for scorning female commune members from house to house, but then it became a campaign to clean up the streets themselves. by 1970 that neighborhood was having an affair when his speed. directly across from the good earth house upholstery. they decided they had to go peer calling the police was not considered an option since it would probably take the opportunity to raise the better past two. they had apparently abandoned to
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tooth and claw. the one-day group of the communes members including mccarthy, now known as mouseman simply paid the junkies a visit to commit them to leave. good earth took over the house, fix it up in the skin of some members. heroin dealers still roam the neighborhood, but good earth begin to run them out, too. one evening a smart pusher came down this flashy car, nearly running over several commune members. the good earth crew loudly that the dealer know what they thought of them. 10 minutes later, stepped out of his car with a gun. what are you going to do now he said keever and several other commune members began walking straight at him. they have no fear. we go freaked out and raced away. the commune member who is there that day. keever and his posse did they have backup. houston who'd grown up in a bible thumping family in the air force was stationed on the roof
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with a rifle. i was ready to shoot if necessary he recalled. i knew how to use a rifle from a military hillbilly background. not long afterwards, rico moved out never to be seen again. on another occasion, and unlike many other knitters members by their astrological nicknames witnessed a gangster roughing up his girlfriend on the street. we stepped in and said ferguson. we didn't tolerate that behavior. he beat a girl in a pay for. pathetic and a shotgun. big mistakes that ferguson who learned how to handle himself on the street after being kicked out of his family's house when he was just 16 peer be chastened like lightning down haight street and he kept pointing at me like he was going to shoot me. only we smashed him over the head and dumped them in a trash can on a must-have for that. good earth became a neighborhood
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battered by crime and decay and deserted by the city's authorities. some longtime residents like the free clinic dr. david smith credited the commune receiving the haight. he'd known of no other neighborhood that had been rescued this way. good earth one. the beat the heroin dealers because they were a warrior tribe, calvin welch. they knew how to fight. thank you. hot mark fenster history. you're tough. so i'm going to take questions now and we'd love to hear from you, particularly neighborhood residents like maryland, dr. smith. do you want to say a few words? >> thank you, david.
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that was fascinating and david has played an important role in our history. he has to share memories and our favorite story, that so many thought. her free clinics say the good earth and touch football. >> who won? we had a cheerleading squad. they are cheerier with some like it hot, some like it cold. i don't know she's going to identify yourself, do they see one of our former cheerleaders. [laughter] that's a poor story she probably doesn't want.
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[laughter] the way the game ended, their fullback, one of these individuals who just named as racing and our ceo, richard frank, a former wrestling champ not to matted down and saved a giant fate. since he was a champion, he said sudan. we won the game and everybody smoked a joint after. that was the way it was. the haight-ashbury free clinic, and they bring back so many memories. we used to have this building for a rehab center. that stirs the i.d. meeting of which many of the people where they are and that's when dianne feinstein center board of
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directors -- [inaudible] anybody who has been through haight, when i came up, she says [inaudible] this has been a neighborhood for 52 years. watching the games. my story, which david asked us to share with you, 1967, that neighborhood was totally crazy. professor of medicine -- [inaudible] is a second career failure and mental comments.
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what happened as we were built on rock 'n roll, concerts and had all these celebrities. i was trying to date donation from them. [inaudible] so we were totally volunteers. he said that hells angels rent a day care center are sent game like that. [inaudible] so what i did was work during the day and then just haight-ashbury clinic at night. it is going to come in and make a big donation rate of fire. i told everybody that was going
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to come and there is an opportunity for donation of course. if you recall that era, nobody checked anybody's credentials. you couldn't tell the difference between the patience, staff, whatever. it is a volunteer position. the nameless whatever. so the next day i heard his name being paged. so i went to see. [inaudible] [laughter] doctor would ever said i my license stolen. this masquerading with dr. whatever. so i come back and i said we
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have a problem. so i'm in the back room and i said this could close the clinic. i asked him a simple medical question, which he didn't get. he starts running down the hallway last night that hells angels chasing him, running down the street. in 1957 a few random street, you had about a hundred people after you. it takes stock of whatever are. it is backed by a hundred people, including the hells angels.
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[inaudible] >> anyways, that's my story. hot mark >> gooden paperback. last night i [inaudible] [inaudible] so i took off who is very short. there is a very gorgeous blond man. i moved in the early 60s as a school teacher in the outer
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mission i think i made $5000 a year is a schoolteacher and i was really glad to live in this neighborhood. it is a mixed neighborhood of a lot of working class folks. i felt as a single woman i had moved into eternity. within a very short period of time i was in the community. i had a family. the family i ended up with the grateful dead across from a third-floor walkout. and this is the story that has -- i've done a lot of things in my life, but nothing got me more credit than this story,
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especially with my kid, who is now almost tracy h. i was a nice i was living here. actually the six-day war my life partner of 40 some odd years is sitting over here. i'd of course didn't go because of the six-day war. i was at loose fans and i ended up because the hyde street clinic. cannot remember the scientific take a trip to an attractor love made care. i should've come over to the
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clinic because they weren't using disposable needles and i got a blood test and i became really ill with hepatitis within six weeks. and i mean really ill at then i couldn't pick up the telephone to make a call. people i talk with put a sign up outside my door with breakfast for people to sign up and take care of me and the dad till den most of those times and took great care. i had food. i had my linens changed and people help me to the bathroom and those things that come from
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families. when i was recovered enough to get out of bed and sit in my pink chair and look out the window, and the view i would have is down ashbury street and across to the death house. i watched the bus, the big famous bus go down. and so i sat there and i just noted he was taken away and who is allowed to run away. the 16-year-old neighborhood kid who eventually died of an overdose in our neighborhood. i know do not grow weren't taken and so i sat at the window. and when they came home from the
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grocery store -- best jerry garcia -- when they finally pulled up in part, i hope the window and just started shouting, might, i cite you ever get here. i need that so badly. and they just looked. and they came upstairs. for a mountain girl it was crucial because she had dirty been busted for pot can kesey and probably would've gone away at that time for many years. denard for real problem in any neighborhood. for no reason at all, there is a set up of people and so that's
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my story. i saved a mountain girl and jerry. [applause] >> why do we open up for questions. anybody have any questions? >> hi, i am cozy. i was fortunate and i met dad e4. i came here on the great medicine ball caravan. everyone was there. so when i arrived here, i think my first thanksgiving was spent with the members of congress. my first members was spent at the whole class over in the east bay and then came the
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exhibitionist in the middle. i came into london and the rock stars only make 20 pounds a month. when i met them they are, what really struck me was the inclusiveness. as you know, if you met one, you met 40. this is completely alien to me. i came up for three months and that was 40 years ago. because i was in music, i looked at your music list at the back and was delighted to see that she had tracy nelson down so low. i mean, that song. yeah, that's great. thank you. great book. >> just another shout. one of the chapter in the books joseph fm radio and has him at cisco in many ways is the cradle for underground radio. tom donohue and the other great pioneers. and that was pre-internet.
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it was fm radio that really pulled together to youth culture. it was a secret society. it was the music, messages are donated to hear to keep us in touch with each other. for kids like me growing up in the suburbs of l.a., it would made me feel that i could turn on the radio at night and hear that music and those long-winded raps that the djs who do and those days. no commercials, no jingles. one shot out of a person the front row here comes someone i should also alleges in the book. another here when a san francisco, alyssa florez, who participated, i have to say, in the first i know i've peered behind the greenberg remake, a version of that back in the 80s era. so tell them, and they see. thank you.
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[applause] >> yeah, i'd like to have stated what he was doing. last night >> that's for my next book. [inaudible] >> some of it. >> any other questions? >> so what happened to the good earth commune? >> well, that is a sadder tale. they had a straight, you know, part of their revenue, but they district policy in dealing hard drugs. after two years, cocaine started coming into the city. they started governing group about whether, how to characterize cocaine, as a hard or soft drugs and fiddly and tragically decided that cocaine was a soft drugs and was okay to deal if they started making a lot of money, created a lot of
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tensions within the group. they had to beef up their security because it brought a harder element around and they fell prey to the hard drugs seemed that they came in fighting in the group split up in his 70s. a happy note, i found them because they are all online. there is a form that brought all the survivors together. it's a very vibrant forum. they not only go for the old days and all that, you can really see what these people's values were and how to san francisco values this delighted in their heart. it's really great. >> obviously people in favorite cisco are very familiar about about a the effects that seem really real to people from other parts of the country featuring a cult leader that was very influential in local politics, and the massacre to have any
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politician murder to other politicians. those kinds of elements. so in terms of when you are writing this book, what were the kinds of things you try to think about it terms of making it accessible to the rest of the country might not be familiar with how much craziness is in san francisco, but also make them understand how great a city it is. >> yeah, it was tough, but that's what he was divided into three parts. the enchantment is the first part of the 60s, starting with the summer of love and terror, the middle section of the book, which does fall into this very dark. as you say, the deeper and zodiac murders, kidnapping of patty hearst, jim jones and peoples temple and how jim jones inserted himself into the liberal power structure in this town and really compromised here is that the city like harvey
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milk and mayor moscone in the double assassination of mayor moscone and harvey milk. one thing after the next. i do think the city came up with its values intact and stronger than ever those favorite cisco values of tolerance, of an openness to change to experimentation are deeply embedded in the city. and now that we won our own civil war and the size are enshrined, it's the rest of the country that's wrestling with them right now. it's only as recent as president obama's embrace of gay marriage that shows how relevant these ideals are. i'm part of the city. i think it's a laboratory for the new. it's a laboratory for the new ideas for medical marijuana to gay marriage to immigrant sanctuary, a lovable minimum wage. universal health care, which is something that dr. smith in the free clinic is popularized,
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health care is a right not a privilege. all of these values were fought out first in san francisco not the rest of the country to the horror of fox news is grappling with them. so i say right now, san francisco. [applause] >> i'd like to give an anecdote to your comments. [inaudible] -- to kind of wipe my her race ends to bistros to cut is going to under the armpits of the united states. i ended up with my first job in richmond, virginia. and my landlady, landlord to be, the bugs, they like the
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grandfather of the neighborhood. and so, they have never met a haitian before. in fact, one week and they invited whole family to come see an asian. one of the relatives is disappointed because i was not wearing one of those chain dynasty teams. when i told him as an san francisco, gore appear, they said you made that city of san? [laughter] [applause] >> i'm so glad we have so many people from the neighborhood here tonight. >> you spoke of the old-school irish americans here. was there anyone that was like a liaison between the old enemy that myth of assorted heraldic? >> absolutely. yes, in fact my book is a set wanted to write a history of san
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francisco and said the opening of my book about the wonderful san francisco legendary character, vincent hallinan from the preceding work who grew up in a very irish catholic family, but rejected a lot of what he had grown up in and became the link to the new. he started talking sort of a nick and nora character with his beautiful wife, vivian allen and he told the story the murder case they were involved in the 1930s. he was defending frankie can come in the thought of as the next mayors or city. it turned out frank egan is actually running a racket, where he was teasing ex-cons to bump off out of the pen name is still their pensions and savings. so anyway, it's a love story, connectors very sad and cisco. but he goes on to the sherman
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later, the fbi and the cold war were going after harry bridges and the restless in doing so, were determined to throw them in prison because he was such an effective pay per liter. this is a great champion of civil rights. he runs for president under the progressive party ticket in 1952. fbi goes after with everything they have. he's turned in prison on trumped up tax charges twice, but he raises the sprawling brood of chuck irish kids. terence hallinan who miss in this neighborhood, brother patrick, lawyers themselves and of course da of san francisco. the only da, by the way, who was given a hot fix for janis joplin of hair heroin and latest bid to become da of san francisco. so this is a book that really told it self i have to say.
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these stories and characters are truly larger than life. >> just after that, make japan yen and brian rohan worked in hallinan's office and they were the guys who started halo, he had ran out of the dads front hollar, a victorian house. they were providing legal services to other kids that got bested in the neighborhood. >> is true. since hallinan was the godfather for whole new generation to brian and michael and also tony sir who went on to defend among other things the critters commune with their subject it to one police raid after the next. [inaudible]
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[inaudible] >> that is a good testament to tony. by the way, but as michael giguere is, just about, another great tier of san francisco, a great photographer. some of them are featured in the book. michael has been a longtime photographer for the 49ers going back to the first glory days of joe walsh and montana in c. and then begin again. said thank you, michael. [applause] >> i think we have time for one more. >> i just want to follow up to medical story, michael's companion, the chairman of our
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board that the haight-ashbury clinic. terence hallinan organized their whole street. i would come home at night and just coming to the university of the haight-ashbury. i've never heard anything like that. it is the first time i got the idea of desegregated health care and we would go over to their office and there is vincent hallinan. and that was also willie brown. so that was -- [inaudible] this group of lawyers, would testify in court cases for tony sir. nic was tony would tell me stories. he was an incredible storyteller. he was not good at finance.
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his idea he returned the car, get somebody tickets and let the police just take it away. [laughter] >> i just want to say when david called me up to be interviewed about the book, i said can we even remember that time. and it was a really rare moments in the sun and hunter thompson was night management at the theater and i lived with arnie mitchell and david talbot came and asked if he could, and follow us and i was actually going out. >> i was a reporter, not a stalker. i just want to make that clear. >> i used to go down and pass out condoms to the prostitutes. and when they prostitutes for arrested and would take them in,
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they would poke holes in all the condoms. it was a very bare moment when we shared that. thanks for shedding light on not. >> yeah, thank you. idea mark [inaudible] [inaudible] >> what is your name? [inaudible] >> jason, ray. just briefly, i think it all comes to a head. the cops were for the bastian of the old irish catholic san
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francisco and they've all gone to parochial schools together and it's an all boys network. you know, there is a motive great police are dated, particularly some of the cases i write about the deeper case when the city was on the rage of racial civil war by the time the case was cracked. but sf pd has to answer for it. all these tensions come together, start to boil over during the 10 year when he starts to reform the police department. he brings an outsider after promising initially he will .1 of their own as chief. he brings in the outside reformer and all breaks loose. people had death threats and the police bathrooms come against both moscone endgame. another san francisco hero, organizer of the prostitutes
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union. she had good friends and clients among pacific cisco police force. one tip dropped one night to the thought that charlie gaines would be killed that night i cops and he was out speaking somewhere and she wanted him to get home as quickly as she could. this is a kind of violent tensions brewing within the city over reform. because he wanted to open up the police force to minorities. it was a very white department in those days and they were fighting it to the nail into gay and two women. so we owe mayor moscone a great day. he was assigned to san francisco, had been a basketball star at saint ignatius and he was seen as a traitor by many of the kids he grew up with, it became part of the power structure in this town.
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[inaudible] [inaudible] >> well, i want to say one thing. it's very illustrated with the chapter i read about critters commune because that gentleman, was a vietnam veteran. he came to the haight and was embraced here. he was obviously on the brink of a breakdown or worse. he does not spat on. he was not rejected. these mythologies are spread by hyper nationalistic patriotic types, right wing.
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for the most part are completely groundless. in this community, in the city, veterans by and large were warmly embraced. when they had true problems, when they were in dire need and no one else is taking care of them, not their families, not their peashooter tapes. this san francisco to take care of these men. >> i really wanted to reinforce that david. the haight-ashbury clinic with its nonjudgmental approach, although that's in the 70s came to her clinic for detox and medical problems and the va decided they needed to find where ever the vets went and that is when the haight-ashbury got their first-ever government funding. government officials came across an wanted to give me money. i said last year you try to
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arrest me and i'd like to give me money. it was a vietnam vet. it has a very rich history. the head with glen ross whittaker came out a vietnam vet area, country joe and the fish. it really caught violence over here on haight streak come attack court came down. i can just see it right now they have this big shields. they beat the out of all the hippies in 1968. i was standing up there and i came down because they were just beating the out of this kid. i came down and they started whacking me with them a stake. i think the great thing about san francisco was the journalism. herb kane wrote in his column the next day about how smith got beat up and they don't even beat up the red cross and more time. so you had this liberal,
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journalistic for the state to change the establishment into backing out insert your comical that very well. >> well, thank you everyone for coming tonight. books are for sale at the front counter. trained to book a signing at the front. go ahead and continue the conversation at the signing table. thank you very much for coming in. chair mark [cheers and applause] >> tree into a and founder of salon. for more information, visit salon.com. >> now joining us on booktv is an old washington hand and that is ambassador stuart eisenstadt. he is also author.
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ambassador eisenstadt, wiry writing a book about the future of the jewish. >> we survived 3000 years of calamities culminating in a holocaust of her own time and yet we have survived and thrived and continued to societies, even those that didn't want us. now we have a whole new set of 21st century challenges and the question is, having survived this terrible times, can we now survive prosperity, success and integration. a look at this from two perspectives. i look at the global forces that affect america, american jews and israel, everything for the shift of power from the united states and the west to china and the east, the powers of globalization of the digital era about how to deal with the 1.6 million muslims in the world
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come across to the iranian nuclear power. and i also like an internal press, low birthrates, assimilation and whether we can in effect succeeded at a time that we are more successful than matter and integrated into a society. it is a new phenomenon and that's why wanted to write the book. i else to write about that from israeli did. i think israel may be 40 times. three times this year alone during the carter and clinton administration is deeply involved in policies between the u.s. and israel. iran from the perspective of someone who has relatives in israel, has spent many, many years in israel. so if a unit perspective looking from the outside in and the inside out. >> ambassador eizenstat come israel is one of the few foreign-policy issues in the 2012 campaign.
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mitt romney saying he a sinuous anti-semite between the u.s. and israel. is the u.s. relationship and vice versa a healthy relationship? >> it is a remarkable relationship between one of the nations that have the smallest majority in israel had our great country. it's almost a mystical relationship when he think of how much support we have showered on israel and how much support we get back. it is due to the fact that this is not just a jewish support. barely 2% of the population united states. it is because we have shared values, shared enemies and islamic terrorism that many people in the united states viewed israel as the holy land. not just jews, but not jews as well. it's a remarkable time when there's so much polarization between republicans and democrats. it's one of the few
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foreign-policy issues that actually unite democrats and republicans. >> "the future of the jews." is your book title provocative in any way and do you mean it to be? >> i mean it to be because 10 people who survived calamities for 3000 years in effect except successful integration? and how do you react to that? it is not a mistake, the real estate. looks at the demographics of israel and see whether 2.57 elliott israelis can ultimately control 2 million palestinians against their will. it looks at low birthrates below replacement level with intermarriage and threatens really to reduce the number of jews. there were 17 million. there's 13.5 million because of the holocaust in a world as
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7 million. so it looks at a very provocative way i'm on to mistake that we can survive these external threats, the shift of power, globalization. globalization, because we are not of the come of the united states and the west are in the same battles themselves. it's the n-terminal threat, the internal cohesion that is at risk ironically a success. that is the thesis that the book and i'm optimistic we can do it, but they're a very real challenges. >> ambassador eizenstat, you were involved in the carter administration. if you could just recap what she did for the president. >> as the president's chief domestic adviser, but it was my recommendation that created the u.s. holocaust memorial museum. the commission had led to that. i worked on behalf of the soviet jury. turn the clinton administration
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is ambassador to the european union and i did as undersecretary, all the holocaust negotiations. i negotiated a billion dollars of compensation from the swiss, germans, austrians come to save labor forced labor, insurance, property restitution and the like. and here i really tried to look at this from the dead of someone who's been a senior government official, but also a leader in the jewish community. that is for the book is endorsed by both president harris n. president clinton. >> stuart eizenstat, "the future of the jews" how global forces are impacting the jewish people of israel and its relationship to the united states. this is booktv on c-span 2.
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